1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,799 I'm pretty sure that you referred to Spector by name. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,479 - Are you certain? - If you did, he knows that we're on to him. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,039 I was due to see Mr Spector, but... is he the target? 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,159 - Hairdresser's booked to see Annie today. - She's been cancelled too. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,559 But you let me come all the way in here before turning me away. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,199 Aargh! 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,719 - We've a problem. - What? 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,959 We've a collapsed ceiling. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,239 What is that? 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,679 A body has been found. A female. 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,559 - Where? - The Belfast Hills. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,599 It's not her. it's not Rose. 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,719 She's unidentified as yet. Perhaps I can use her for 12 hours? 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,919 Do you know a detective called Tom Anderson? 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,439 Detective Sergeant, West Belfast. 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,239 I thought he might make a useful addition to our team? 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,239 Nurture your envy, Katie. 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,479 Your anger. it's the way forward. 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,639 What is it you want me to do? 20 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,079 ♪ Blues 21 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,319 ♪ Mama, bring me my walking cane 22 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,359 ♪ I said, Mama, bring me my walking cane 23 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,119 ♪ I'm leaving on that midnight... 24 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,199 Control. Xray 1 update. 25 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,799 From Xray 1 . No movement. 26 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,959 Nothing to report. 27 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,759 No sign of any builders, plumbers at the house? 28 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,919 No, ma'am. 29 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,559 The target appears to be playing loud music. 30 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,359 ♪ Mama 31 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,679 ♪ I'm drinking again 32 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,199 ♪ Mama 33 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,559 ♪ Said I'm drinking again 34 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:29,959 You'll find in front of you a target profile on Peter Paul Spector. 35 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,279 There's no date and time, and the precise wording of the arrest is yet to be formalised. 36 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,759 I'll do that with the officer nominated and briefed to make the arrest. 37 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,479 I personally like the arresting officer to be the first interviewing officer if possible. 38 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,199 - Do you have someone in mind? - I do. 39 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,999 I've made some enquiries. That seems like it might work. 40 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,159 Good. 41 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,879 So far we've found no official record for Paul Spector further back 42 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,159 than his marriage to Sally Ann Goodall. 43 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,839 We're still waiting on John Paul Spector's army records, 44 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,319 but one thing we do now know is that Paul Spector is not Jewish. 45 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,519 His father was born John Paul Marshall. 46 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,679 Marshall was adopted by the Spectors who were indeed a Jewish couple. 47 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,839 They devoted most of their lives to adopting and fostering children 48 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,159 regardless of their race, colour or creed. 49 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,759 Thoroughly good people it seems. 50 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,679 - Where was this? - North London. 51 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:24,919 Is John Paul Spector still alive, do we know? 52 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,319 He's alive and in prison. 53 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,919 - Where? - Canada. 54 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,799 - In prison for? - Murder. 55 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,279 - A female victim? - Male. 56 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,719 I'm not sure if you remember me. Jim Burns? 57 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,239 Of course I remember you. 58 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,439 I've followed your career with some interest. 59 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,679 If I may, I'll get straight to the point. 60 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,039 I want to know if you remember this boy from your time at Gortnacul Orphanage? 61 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,799 I believe he was there from the age of ten to 13, from 1989 to 1992. 62 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,599 Is this to do with the recent spate of sexual murders? 63 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,039 Why do you ask that? 64 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,119 It must be something of pressing importance 65 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:10,159 to bring the Assistant Chief Constable all the way out here to see me. 66 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,599 Is this your man? 67 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,479 What can you tell me about him? 68 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,599 He was a very pretty boy. 69 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:52,999 I've been following the progress of the case, 70 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,239 in the newspapers, on the news, with considerable interest. 71 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,119 All those poor murdered girls. 72 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,119 There's a great deal of consternation among the general public. 73 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,999 - I'm well aware of that. - I'd like to help. 74 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,719 You can. By telling me what you remember about that boy. 75 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,559 Would you call me Father? 76 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,119 You've been defrocked, dismissed from the clerical state. 77 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,719 You are no longer a priest. 78 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,159 Do you know what is sung at a priest's ordination? 79 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,919 "You are a priest forever, like Melchizedek of old." 80 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,519 A priest acts on earth as an alter Christus - that is as another Christ! 81 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,119 I know one of your victims believed that he was being touched by the hand of God 82 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,119 while you were molesting him, because that's what you told him. 83 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,399 All of those boys were willing participants. 84 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,039 Every one of them consented, I never forced myself on anyone. 85 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,359 They wanted to learn about sex, explore their sexual identities. 86 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,839 They enjoyed it. 87 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,119 If they deny that now it's because they can't face their real natures. 88 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,759 A child's consent does not count. 89 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,839 What you were doing had nothing to do with exploring their sexuality 90 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,039 and everything to do with misusing power and abusing trust. 91 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,719 I never hurt a boy physically. 92 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,399 And that's a source of pride? Is it? 93 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,279 Mm. 94 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,719 Do you feel no shame? No guilt? 95 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,119 Why should I? 96 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,039 Shame... for who you are? Guilt at what you've done? 97 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,279 I was showing children love, expressing affection. 98 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,239 By performing oral sex on 12 year olds? 99 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,999 How many of those boys still have faith in the Catholic Church, 100 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,999 still have faith in God, do you think? 101 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,799 It's a disgrace that I'm thought of as a common criminal 102 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,839 and all the good work I did over almost 30 years is forgotten. 103 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,719 Even in this place I continue my vocation. 104 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,199 A man dying on the floor of his cell begged me for the last rites. 105 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,719 What would you have me do? Turn away from him? 106 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,719 Refuse to confer absolution? 107 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,599 I was obliged to dispense the sacraments 108 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,399 because an indelible priestly character remains on my soul. 109 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:03,239 I absolved sin. 110 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,279 One word from my lips transformed mere bread and wine into divine flesh and blood. 111 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,759 That power can never be taken away from me. 112 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,159 This was a mistake. I shouldn't have come here. 113 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,079 - Give me the photograph. - You're an important man. 114 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,759 You could let it be known that I will lead the community in sincere prayer 115 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,999 for the apprehension of this individual. 116 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,919 Say... say tomorrow at noon. 117 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,239 Men, women, children - it could be a mighty force. 118 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,639 I'm sure there are plenty of priests who could lead the community in prayer. 119 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Priests who aren't pederasts serving a 20-year prison sentence. 120 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,319 I can perform any religious ritual that is permitted to any lay person 121 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,479 and no one can stop me. 122 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,399 - Let me have the photograph. - Father. Call me Father. 123 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,159 No. 124 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:10,399 Then I won't tell you what I know about this boy. 125 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,119 I don't think I can. 126 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,799 I don't know what's gonna happen. 127 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,639 I don't... I don't... 128 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,479 I had an early night myself. 129 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,439 It's a beautiful night. 130 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,759 Beautiful night. 131 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,559 The first example is the known recording of Spector's voice 132 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,639 from his interview with DCl Brink. 133 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,319 The second, the call from Rose Stagg's phone. 134 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,039 I don't think I can... 135 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,879 I don't know what's gonna happen. 136 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,639 I don't... 137 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,199 I had an early night myself. 138 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,679 It's a beautiful night. 139 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Beautiful night. 140 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,279 Normally, 20 or more different words are needed for a meaningful comparison. 141 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,879 Comparing two voice samples of less than 20 words results in a less conclusive opinion: 142 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,679 possibly instead of probably. 143 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,359 The call from Rose Stagg's phone was very possibly made by Paul Spector. 144 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,919 It has been four days since Rose went missing. 145 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,159 Delaying the arrest in the hope that the suspect leads us to her, 146 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,519 runs a number of very clear and obvious risks. 147 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,079 Risks that, I think, we have to take. 148 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,079 Hey, this is Katie. I can't come to the phone right now. 149 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,839 Leave a message and I'll call you back. 150 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Hi, er... it's me. I'm outside. 151 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,079 Have you left already? 152 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,519 I can't really wait, so... I'll see you at school. Bye. 153 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,479 These are the thermal images from last night, ma'am. 154 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,919 The only heat signatures are livestock. 155 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,759 - Is that all Goodall land? - Yeah, there's the farmhouse. 156 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,639 - What's that? - That's your derelict building. 157 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,439 Perhaps it's on the list. We'll take a look later. 158 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,559 No sign of Rose Stagg's car? 159 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,399 No, ma'am. We'll extend the search further south today. 160 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,039 We need to find that car, Jed. 161 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,199 From 3. That's the Benedetto girl into the bank on Waring Street. 162 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,079 I no longer have. 163 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,319 From 3. That's the Benedetto girl into the bank, Waring Street. 164 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,439 3 no longer has, running loose. 5, can you cover? 165 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,959 From 5. Entering the bank. 166 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Message from Control, ma'am. The Benedetto girl has cut school. She's on the move. 167 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,239 From 5. I now have. 168 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,879 - Where is she? - Ln a bank on Waring Street, ma'am. 169 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,039 5 now has. 170 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,279 From 5. She's making a cash withdrawal, looks like a large amount. 171 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,079 From 5. That's the Benedetto girl out of the bank on Waring Street. 172 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,239 Walking briskly towards the river. 173 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,079 What's the word on Spector? 174 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,279 Sitting tight, ma'am. 175 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,879 From 5. The Benedetto girl is on the footbridge at Lagan Weir. 176 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,439 From 4. She's fixed a lock to the fence and thrown away the key. 177 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,759 A padlock that says Katie and Paul with today's date. 178 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,639 A love lock? 179 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,399 From 4. The target is heading back towards Custom House Square. 180 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,079 From Xray 1 . Stand by, stand by. That's the target out of the house. 181 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,079 Blue and Grey hooded top, black tracksuit bottoms. 182 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,279 On foot. Left, left towards the Lisburn Road. Now running! 183 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,719 He's running. Repeat, he's running loose. Left, left towards Lisburn Road. Unsighted. 184 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,039 Out for a run or making a run for it? 185 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,399 From Xray 1 . Target is wearing a back-pack. 186 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,719 Oh, Jesus! 187 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,359 From Xray 1 . That's the target out of the house. 188 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,479 Left, left towards the Lisburn Road. Now running unsighted. All call signs respond. 189 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,799 It's Gibson. ls the surveillance blown? 190 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,119 From Delta. Not possible to say. 191 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,119 Have eyes on target running loose Ulsterville Avenue, approaching Lisburn Road. 192 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,599 Arrest strategy not yet in place. Follow. Do not lose. 193 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,279 Target now crossing Lisburn Road. Repeat: crossing Lisburn Road. 194 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,519 Control. From Delta. Target is crossing Lisburn Road. 195 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,439 From Delta. Target is on College Gardens heading towards Malone Road. 196 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,439 One-way street, unable to pursue. 197 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,119 From Delta. That's the target crossing the Lisburn Road, 198 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,319 into College Gardens, heading towards the Malone Road. 199 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,839 Call signs that can back Delta, come in. 200 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,679 Golf. I can. 201 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,599 Eyes on target crossing Malone Road. Repeat: crossing Malone Road. 202 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,639 Control. From Golf. Target crossing Malone Road. 203 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,759 From Golf. Target entering Botanic Gardens. Main gates closed to vehicles - running loose. 204 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,559 All calls signs. I need cars blocking all exits. 205 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,759 Golf and Delta, drop two men on foot to cover the Gardens. 206 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,399 From Golf. SO7 entering park at Botanic Avenue entrance on foot. 207 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,919 From 8. In Botanic Gardens on Stranmillis. 208 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,799 From Bravo. Turning left on Ridgeway Street heading to University exit. 209 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,719 From 7. Eastern edge of Botanic. No visual on the target. 210 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,719 From Bravo. Crossing Ormeau Road, turning left onto Annadale Embankment. No visual. 211 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,239 From 8. Southwest of Gardens. No sign of target. 212 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,679 Control. From 8. No sign of target southwest of Gardens. 213 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,879 From 3. Benedetto girl has turned into Bleecker Street. 214 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,039 4 has. 215 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,679 From 4. The Benedetto girl has entered the Bleecker Street Hotel on Bleecker Street. 216 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,199 Running loose. 217 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:26,479 From 4. The Benedetto girl has entered the Bleecker Street Hotel. Running loose. 218 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,879 - What's happening? - We lost him. 219 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,119 What? 220 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,279 We think he's somewhere in the Botanic Gardens. 221 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,879 We have cars covering every exit. 222 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,839 All available surveillance operatives are in the Gardens on foot. 223 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,119 From 4. I'm in the lobby of the Bleecker Street Hotel. 224 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,319 Room 12 is registered in the name of Paul Spector. 225 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,839 Call in the uniforms. Spector's room is a crime scene. 226 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,359 It needs to be treated accordingly. 227 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,399 Get down on your knees! 228 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,559 This is my hotel! it's my hotel! 229 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,039 Drop what you're holding! 230 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,639 - On your feet. - What? 231 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,119 I can't walk the corridors of my own hotel? 232 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,959 Police. Open the door! 233 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,759 Police! Open up! 234 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Open the door! 235 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,319 Police, open the door! 236 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,279 - Katie. Calm down. You are under arrest. - Get off! 237 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,839 - Get off! - Just stop moving! 238 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,599 Get off! 239 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,839 Alpha Papa 1 -2 to Uniform. We have the Benedetto girl. 240 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,079 We believe the girl has attempted to destroy vital evidence. 241 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,439 It might be necessary to conduct a strip search. 242 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,679 Assign Hagstrom responsibility for her care. 243 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,359 We need to provide access to an appropriate adult. 244 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,319 And put her in a detention room, not in a... not in a cell. 245 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,799 Understood. 246 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,399 Thanks. 247 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,719 From Bravo. No sign of target. 248 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,559 Spector's juvenile criminal record. 249 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,679 - From the South? - I went to see Father Jensen. 250 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,279 The pederast who ran the orphanage at Gortnacul 251 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,919 where Spector was when he was a boy. 252 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,599 He remembered him well. 253 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,599 - Peter Baldwin? - PB. 254 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,639 Was he abused by Jensen? 255 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Jensen says not. 256 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,439 At 13 he was moved to Ballyvale. It's a home in Dundalk. 257 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,559 It was there that it seems his criminal behaviour began. 258 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:02,759 And you were right: breaking and entering. Ignoring valuables, taking underwear. 259 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:08,599 And he kept a journal too, it seems. Voyeur's map of the town. 260 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,799 Days of the week, times of the day and night. 261 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,679 Places where women could be observed. 262 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Notes about their appearance, age, habits. 263 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,239 - Prison changed Jensen? - No. 264 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,679 He's just as arrogant, just as narcissistic. 265 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,719 - He's unrepentant. - From 7. No sign of target. 266 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,879 Oh, where the fuck is he? 267 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,239 Will you look who it is? 268 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,519 Stop that! Stop that! 269 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,279 Move back. Go! Move! 270 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,439 Get down on your knees. 271 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,679 Get down on your knees. 272 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,559 Get down on your knees! 273 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,839 - Where's my wife? - What? 274 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,879 Liz? Where is she? 275 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,799 I don't know, Jimmy. 276 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,759 Tell me... or so help me I'll blow your fucking brains out! 277 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,599 I swear to you, Jimmy, I don't know where she is. 278 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,759 Find out. 279 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,959 How? 280 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:53,759 Make some calls. Now. Find out where she is. 281 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,879 I don't have my phone. 282 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,199 Make some calls. 283 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,839 Gibson. 284 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,919 Responding to an emergency call, ma'am. The back of Elmwood Mews. 285 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Elmwood Mews? 286 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,039 The person who phoned it in described two men in bomber jackets, jeans 287 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,719 and the third in dark running gear. 288 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,359 It made me think of the CCTV footage of Spector running. 289 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,399 - How far away are you? - Minutes. 290 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,279 All right, stay on the line. 291 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,799 It's just er... I need to follow up, for my case notes. 292 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,399 I really need to see her in person. 293 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,559 Elizabeth Tyler. 294 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,119 Paul Spector. 295 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,759 She was in therapy because of the death of her son. 296 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,919 Not because of domestic abuse. 297 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,719 That therapy was interrupted. 298 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,079 Obviously I'll treat any information as confidential. 299 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,999 She's asking her superior. 300 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,599 - My knees are hurting. Can I get up? - No, you fucking can't get up! 301 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,679 It's lovely music. 302 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,079 What? 303 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,239 They got me on hold. 304 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,839 - What's in your bag? - What? 305 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,279 Give me your bag. Give me it. 306 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,759 Dani? Dani? 307 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,119 - What the fuck! - Put the gun down! 308 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,799 Nobody move, nobody move! 309 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,479 Keep your hands in the air. Keep your hands where I can see them! 310 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,199 Aargh! 311 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,359 - Stay where you are. Don't move! - Dani! 312 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,119 - For fuck's sake! - Dani, can you hear me? 313 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,199 You OK? 314 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,359 Dani! 315 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,639 Er... 316 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,039 Sorry, ma'am. We've had a contact. 317 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,559 - Were you hit? - Yeah. 318 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,719 - One in the flak jacket. - And Spector? Is it Spector? 319 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,679 Yes, ma'am. 320 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,119 One moment. 321 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,479 The suspect has fled the scene in a white City Clampers van. 322 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,279 He's er... six foot two, dark jeans, dark jacket. 323 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,319 He's bleeding from his face. He's taken my partner's gun! 324 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,479 Establish an outer cordon! 325 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,239 - Dani? - Sorry, ma'am. 326 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,879 - Is Spector still there? - Yes, ma'am. 327 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,599 Any injuries? Head injuries? 328 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,519 No, ma'am. He's er... I think he's bleeding from... his nose. 329 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,359 OK. Don't let them take him to the hospital, Dani. Do you hear me? 330 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,919 Just keep him at the scene. 331 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,919 Yes, ma'am. 332 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,359 I've told the custody sergeant at the Serious Crime Suite that you're on your way. 333 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,519 Can I help? 334 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,199 Yes, you can. 335 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,039 From Xray 1 . Standby. 336 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,399 That's the target's wife arriving at the house in the Volvo. 337 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,959 Control. Target's wife arriving at house. Xray 1, wait out. 338 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,079 That man was on his back, more or less as he's lying now. 339 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,199 Then he made a move, raised his gun. That's when the male officer fired again. 340 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,919 Two more shots. 341 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,119 Now just bring the wrist up. Don't let me push it forward. 342 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,759 Don't let me push it back. Thank you. 343 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,399 Just don't let me push... 344 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,159 Burns. 345 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,839 Understood. Yeah. 346 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,399 Mr Spector. 347 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,919 Thank you for your statements. We have your number and address. 348 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,999 We'll be in touch if we need anything more from you. 349 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,639 This is Paul Spector. He's not worn any protective clothing. 350 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,079 Sign him out. 351 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,119 Paul Spector. 352 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,079 Detective Sergeant Anderson. 353 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,959 I'm arresting you for the unlawful imprisonment of Rose Stagg. 354 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,399 You do not have to say anything. 355 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,279 But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned 356 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,599 something you later rely on in court. 357 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,359 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you understand? 358 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,119 Police officers! 359 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,479 - Sally Ann Spector? - Yes? 360 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,679 - DC Glen Martin, DC McNally. - What's happened? 361 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,199 Sally Ann Spector, I am arresting you on suspicion of perverting the course of justice. 362 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,279 - What? - You do not have to say anything. 363 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,799 But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned, 364 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,839 something you later rely on in court. 365 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,479 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 366 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,359 Your mother's here to see you. 367 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319 I don't wanna see her. 368 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,359 Katie, you are a juvenile. 369 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,039 The law requires an appropriate adult to be present during your custody. 370 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:29,359 Not her. 371 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,639 They came to the house and arrested me. 372 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,119 And they've bought me to The Down... Serious Crime Unit. 373 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,999 - Slow down, Sally. - I'm sorry. 374 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,239 - Why have you been arrested? - Perverting the course of justice. 375 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,039 In what way? 376 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,439 They suspect that I lied when they asked me about Paul. 377 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,559 - What about Paul? - Where he was the night that girl died. 378 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,719 - What girl? - The one in the park. 379 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,359 Did you lie? 380 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,999 Yes. 381 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,359 - Is this your one phone call? - Yes. 382 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,079 Sally... I'm not a criminal solicitor. 383 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,639 I should contact a colleague. It's important you don't incriminate yourself. 384 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,879 I'm pregnant, Steve. Please help me. 385 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839 Please remove your top layer, sir. 386 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,199 Shoes. 387 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,479 Both the Benedetto girl and Spector have mobile devices with video files on them. 388 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,959 Should we prioritise Spector's? 389 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,959 Yeah. Definitely. 390 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,119 Downloading now, ma'am. 391 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,439 I must advise you this interview is being recorded. 392 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,919 I am Detective Constable Glen Martin. 393 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,559 Detective Constable Gail McNally is also present. 394 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,239 The suspect's name is Sally Ann Spector. 395 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,959 Also present is the suspect's solicitor Stephen Jennings. 396 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,039 It is... 2200 hours on Monday, May the 7th. 397 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,559 This interview is taking place in the Down Serious Crime Suite. 398 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,919 I'd like each person here to identify themselves on tape for voice identification purposes. 399 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,959 DC Gail McNally. 400 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,519 Steve Jennings, solicitor. 401 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,719 Sally? 402 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,399 Sally Ann Spector. 403 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,199 Just to make it clear, Sally, 404 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,079 the offence you are being investigated for is perverting the course of justice. 405 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,719 What I am going to do is ask you to give an account of the answers you gave me 406 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,919 when I telephoned you on Saturday the 21 st of April, 407 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,839 and asked you to give an account of your husband Paul Spector's movements 408 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,119 on a series of specific dates. 409 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,239 I believe the account you gave me was false 410 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,439 and amounted to an attempt to pervert the course of justice. 411 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,519 Do you understand? 412 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,599 Yes. 413 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,039 Tell me in your own words how you came to give me that account. 414 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,879 I lied. 415 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,479 I lied to you. 416 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,319 Er... He called me before he went into the police station. 417 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,079 He said the police would probably come round to see me 418 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,919 and ask me to confirm what he was about to tell them. 419 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,279 He asked me to lie and say that I'd been with him that night. 420 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,039 That we were at home together. 421 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,119 What reason did he give, Sally? 422 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,439 When he called he didn't give a reason. 423 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,919 So you just did what he asked? 424 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,919 Yes. 425 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,079 Did he ever give a reason? 426 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,399 Er... yes, when he came back from the station. 427 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,399 Tell them, Sally. 428 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,359 Paul worked on a suicide helpline, as a volunteer. 429 00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:01,879 Every Friday night, all night, and some other nights as well. 430 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,159 Or at least that's where I thought he was. 431 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,439 When he came back he told me that he hadn't actually gone to work for the last three months. 432 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759 That he'd been having an affair. 433 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,999 Take your time. 434 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,639 He was having an affair... with our baby-sitter. 435 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,399 She was 15 at the time. 436 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,879 I didn't know what to do. 437 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,719 He said that if I told the police that he'd be put on the sex offenders list. 438 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,879 That he'd go to prison. That... I might even lose my job. 439 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,879 Is that what all of this is about? 440 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,799 You understand that you're under caution? 441 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:16,959 I should also remind you... that you have a right to free and independent legal advice. 442 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,879 And that you can talk to a solicitor on the telephone if you so wish. 443 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,479 That light indicates the interview's being monitored. 444 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,279 You have been arrested because we believe that on the night of Thursday, May the 3rd... 445 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,359 ...you abducted Rose Veronica Stagg from her home. 446 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,839 We also believe that you have unlawfully imprisoned Rose Stagg. 447 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,599 That you're holding her somewhere against her will. 448 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,159 You may know Rose Stagg better as Rose McGill. 449 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,239 Your wife has been arrested. 450 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,079 Your home is being searched. 451 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,639 Katie Benedetto has been arrested. 452 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,599 The hotel room you were staying in is being searched. 453 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,679 Things could get out of control for you very quickly, Paul. 454 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,919 Are you sure you don't want to speak? 455 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,079 All the files have downloaded from Spector's phone. 456 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,399 There's some videos you should see. 457 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,839 My wrists are sore. Can you untie me, please? 458 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,439 Peter? Can you unloosen these, please? 459 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,239 I'm thirsty. 460 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,639 Can you untie me, please! 461 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,079 Please. Please can you untie me? 462 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,119 Please take me home. 463 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,119 My babies will be missing me. 464 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,079 They're only little, they're young. 465 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,319 They need me, Peter. They need me, Peter. 466 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,479 I'm sorry. 467 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,919 You were right. I did go to the police. 468 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,479 ...go to the police. 469 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,039 I never will again... if you untie me now. 470 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,639 I won't tell anybody what's happened. 471 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,559 Please, Peter. 472 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,999 Please, Peter, would you talk to me? 473 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,159 I miss what we had. 474 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,439 Hm... I do. 475 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,999 Tom... 476 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,399 He's not like... you. 477 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,199 You. 478 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,479 No one's like you. 479 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,839 Untie me and we can have what we had again. 480 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,159 It can be better. 481 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,559 I know it's wrong, but I'm... so turned on. 482 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,479 Are you? Are you? 483 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,159 Peter? 484 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,879 You fucking disgust me! 485 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,159 You fucking piece of shit! 486 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,919 You fucking worm! 487 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,959 I know it's you. 488 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,599 You pervert. 489 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,759 You fucking pervert! 490 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,999 You dickless piece of shit. 491 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,279 You're a monster. You're a monster. 492 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,359 You're a monster. You're a fucking aberration! 493 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,199 Fuck you! Fuck you! 494 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,599 Peter, please take me home. 495 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,839 You must have had a terrible childhood to do this to me. 496 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,199 I feel sorry for you. 497 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,799 I really do. 498 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,879 You must have had a terrible childhood. 499 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,639 I feel sorry for you. 500 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,679 I don't want to die here, Peter, please! 501 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,079 You want to be noticed? 502 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,159 You want to be paid attention to, make your mark? 503 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,599 Fine. Hurt me. 504 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,759 Do whatever you want to me. 505 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,879 Go ahead... do your worst. 506 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,359 Nothing you can do will ever take away how much I love my husband. 507 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,359 How much I love my children. 508 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,159 Nothing you can do can make me devalue my life in any way. 509 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,959 I will celebrate life. 510 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,839 I love and I am loved, and nothing that you can do can take that away. 511 00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,479 Do you know that? Do you know that! 512 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,599 Why the fuck are you watching this? 513 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,839 You sick shit. 514 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,559 What the fuck is wrong with you? 515 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,839 I think it's time for a special warning. 516 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,519 See if we can't make it that a court draws an adverse inference 517 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,479 from Spector's refusal to answer questions. 518 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,639 I'll pass it on. 519 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:21,279 I want you to listen carefully to what I'm about to say, Paul. 520 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,519 I'm now going to ask you to account for a fact. 521 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,719 The reason I'm asking you to do this... 522 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,199 . .is because I believe this fact shows that you are responsible... 523 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,719 ...for the abduction and unlawful imprisonment of Rose Stagg. 524 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,359 I must warn you that a record is being made of this interview... 525 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,679 ...and may be given in evidence if you're brought to trial. 526 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,399 And that the court may draw proper inference from your silence 527 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,799 if you fail or refuse to account for the fact about which you are being questioned. 528 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,439 Do you understand? 529 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,839 I'm asking you to account for the presence, on your phone - 530 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,159 the phone found in your possession at the time of your arrest - 531 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,559 of a number of video files featuring the image of Rose Stagg... 532 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,519 ...and the sound of her voice. 533 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,039 And images of you. 534 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,799 What is your explanation for those files being found on your phone? 535 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,679 Granny! 536 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,519 They've finished questioning your daughter, Mrs Goodall 537 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,279 - and they're keeping her in custody. - Will you be seeing her again tonight? 538 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,679 I won't, unfortunately, but I will see her first thing in the morning. 539 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,479 - Give her my love. - Granny! 540 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,279 I will. You try not to worry. 541 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,799 Granny, is that Daddy on the phone? 542 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,639 - Gibson. - It's Christine Larkin, ma'am. 543 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,359 - Yes? - Some new results from the FSNI. 544 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,479 Tell me. 545 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,599 They've managed to type mitochondrial DNA 546 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,919 from the degraded blood sample found on the scissors that ties them to the crime scene. 547 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,399 It's Joe Brawley's blood. 548 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,159 He's entitled to eight hours uninterrupted rest, ma'am. 549 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,399 If we wake him, I have to reset the clock and you lose two hours. 550 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,599 Fetch the gaoler. 551 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:30,719 Yes, ma'am? 552 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,839 May I? 553 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,599 There's something I'd like you to do. 554 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,039 I'm DC Gail McNally. 555 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,639 Paul Spector, I'm further arresting you for the murder of Joseph Brawley 556 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,279 and the attempted murder of Anne Brawley. 557 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,879 You do not have to say anything. 558 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,679 But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned 559 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,919 something you later rely on in court. 560 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,599 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 561 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,999 Do you understand?